I agree with all the postings. This is not a place for you to be. If the entire salon has not already gotten the reputation of lacking integrity because of the owner it will sooner or later. This could seriously damage your career. $100 per week is a pretty good rent, I pay almost twice that much. You will have to do some numbers crunching on what you brig in now and whatyou estimate your expenses to be including taxes to determinne if itwould be viable for you to rent.

Please consider getting all the contact info you can on every client you do and this includes any walk ins. Another thing you must consider before booth renting is your business savvy because you will be in charge of everything yourself. Please do your homework. I wish you well.

Dear Friends,

You have all provided fantastic feedback to JulieAnn.  This is indeed a difficult working situationt to be faced with.  When you go to work each day you want to make sure you are doing so with a feel good attitude and do not want to dread going there.  I understand, I have been there!

In Regards to how much money you need to make to pay the rent, there are a few different suggestions I can make for you.  Because I do not know how much you charge for services, I am going to give you an average, but please input your information as necessary.

Clients per day = 5  Client Total= $25

4 day workweek = $500

If you averaged 5 people per day at $25, you would end up with $500 at the end of the week.  That would cover your weekly rent of $100.  Another thing to think about is how much you spend per day in product usage (Wet line or styling line and color if applicable)  Also, do you sell Retail?  As a booth renter, that is key to thinking about paying your rent.  If you average making $6 per product you sell you need to average 16 products per month to pay for your rent.  Than everything that you make doing hair, you take with you!

Just another reason how Retail can pay your rent!

Thank you!

Sarah                                                                 BTC Bulletin Board Moderator sarahk@behindthechair.com

based on what you have been saying about this person you work for, i would advise you to make sure you have everything you need to move on, and tell him the end of work saturday, on your way out the door. you were the only one being professional in this situation from the beginning, and he WILL kick you out the door as soon as you tell him you are leaving. also don't tell him where you are going, so he can't sabotage you.

i would never give this advise to someone who worked in a salon that was run professionally, but this 'boss' of yours is a real piece of work.just gather up your belongings at the end of the day, and say, i'm moving on... this was my last day.buh bye.

you are making a great move! good luck to you in your new place!!

Julieann,

I just want to say I'm very impressed with you and the folks that have taken the time to respond to your dilemma. Russ has offered some great advise, sounds like some is from experience, Heather, pixanne, Humburto and Sarah, Heidi and da-luckiest. I also just wanted to wish you good luck, and to hang in. I'm sure you will overcome and learn. I love facebook and while a novice I'm learning...what a great way to network and show off a few styles. Anyone that would like to join mine, or don't mind my joining their's would be wonderful. A special thanks to BTC for this forum....

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Well everybody it's over, or just beginning depending on perspective.  Yesterday after work I told my boss I needed to talk to him.  We walked outside to the parking lot and in my calmest voice I told him I was leaving.  I explained that in the three years I've worked there I have not been able to build my business even close to what it should be.   I explained that I felt it was unethical for him to cut my clients for half off and free and while that wasn't the only reason I was leaving it was  certainly part of it.  I told him that  I believe if he will do this once he will do it again.  To go after the clients of the salon down the street is business but actively pursuing the clients of the person working next to you is unacceptable.  He did not fly into a rage like I feared he would.  He was very upset that I had found out about him doing my clients and demanded that I tell him how I knew.  He began to give me different reasons why he did it but the bottom line is if he felt it was an ok thing to do he would have put their names on the book and not tried so desperately to hide it from me.  He then began a string of lies that made me want to cry but I didn't!  He said that the reason I'm not sucessful is because I've never subscribed to doing hair his way.  He told me that my regular clients call him all the time complaining about their hair.  (why oh why would they keep coming to me then?)  There's much more in the way of angry words but it makes me too sad to type it out.  He said "you're clients will never follow you, you know they won't".   He demanded the key and I handed it over, we went back to the shop and I collected my things.  I'll admit I was shook up by his words because even when you know it's not true, hearing things like that out loud has an affect.  After I left I called my Tuesday appts. to make sure they had gotten my card and knew when their appt was.  EVERY one of them is eagerly coming with me.  Time will tell about the rest.  Several of my clients have followed me from beauty school.  They gladly accepted the price increase from the beauty academy and have stuck with me.  This gives me confidence that they will be willing to move with me.  Last night my husband helped me bring my things into the new salon.  The owner was  there to greet us and had been working all afternoon to get my station ready. 

 I have to say to all of you that I could not have done this without all the positive feedback, advice and encouragement from you- people I've never even met.  I'm going to continue to use your marketing advice and everything  else you've posted here.  Think about me on Tuesday!    A hearfelt thank you to you all.  Julie

CONGRATS!!!!

just wondering are you a booth renter?

i had a similar situation to where the owner would talk down to stylists. She would gossip about employees with clients and other stylists.. and she would gossip about her clients with other clients and employees. She'd get involved with peoples relationships and try to fill peoples head with negative junk in an attempt to sabotoge relationships. She would go and pick out "issues" with the hair styles and colors other stylists did to the clients who were actually happy before she did it so the stylist had to redo work.. then she would proceed with saying "i'm good at what i do because I..." and go on and on about how great she was. She also blocked me from getting clients by having the receptionist tell my clients i was booked for two weeks when i wasn't. So i made zero dollars in two weeks. I found that out by a client that followed me to a better salon. She would tell me how i "couldn't cut hair" and i wasn't that good at anything yet when i moved to a top 200 salon, i was praised and told how amazing my work was by the top stylists in the joint. SO.. there you go.

The best thing and ONLY thing you can do is just leave. To hell with what is said about you after. It's not worth killing your drive and passion for what you do.

That's wonderful news Julieann. Your ex-boss is such a bad example for the many, many good managers and leaders in our industry. You have set the bar just a little higher for those in your former position. No matter what if you set your goals and follow your heart you'll be a winner. If you ever decide to move to Phoenix we"d be proud to have you join our salon!

Bill