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Posted By:xxhairdivaxx on: 4/16/2008 11:24:52 PM

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A Sad Situation
Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:24:52 PM

Boy whatta day!  Today I went prospecting for salons I would be interested in working in.  The majority on my list is in the "hood" and they all seemed to be hudled in one particular area.  I'm talking at least six salons in a 3 block distance.  Two of them are holes in the wall, (2 stations, 1 shampoo bowl) and although the decor was warm and inviting I don't care to work in a spot the size of my bathroom....moving on......The other spots I checked out were closed.  Two included was in nicer area than those bunched up together.  The problem is I've come to the realization that there is no money to be made where I live.  I've been in the game for 15 years.  Licensed wise four years and I'm in the process of reinstating my license.  I have a temp. permit., now I know why I was discouraged the first time around and just let  the licence go so to speak. 

My area is comprised of working class people (income is $25,000 to $50,000 a year)  and I know that most can't afford to get their hair done.  I'm thinking of buying a large space (2700sqft) to open a salon/spa, but I want to target an upscale clientele.  I'm afraid I won't make the revenue I'd like.   I need suggestions.  These are the things I'd like to accomplish when I get my license:

1.  I'd like to be a product educator-How do I break in?  I'm looking at L'Oreal industries.  I know that they have offices in Cranford, S.Brunswick and other various places in New Jersey

2. I'm thinking of starting an editorial/publication about the salon industry that focuses on the urban salons and communities.

3.Finally own/operate an upscale salon/spa chain....and also have my own skin and hair care product line.

3 and a half---My side gig is to be a strategic salon planner. Its like PR for salons.

I've done the behind the chair skematics, I want to elevate. Take my license futher and beyond.  Use its full potential. 

But as far as the salons in my area its a sad situation.  IMO, they will only make a profit on the 1st of the month and events-----proms, Easter, Mother's Day, graduation.  I want my salon to be "jumping" every day---well I will suspect that Tuesdays will be the slowest day, but hey with the proper advertisement Tuesdays can rock too.  Oh well, thats my dilemma for the day.

I guess I have to travel outside the "hood" to make good money. Thank God for reliable transportation and mapquest!!

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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:22:50 PM
Keep looking, I had the same problem and everyplace of potential told me oh well I would love to hire you but go work for some one else first then come here. (due to clientel) Even those who have seen my work told me the same. It was so discuraging at first but  I finally decied im going to find a job that week (in november), I open the phone book and called I think almost everyplace instead of driving ALL over town.... (gas cost to much lol) if they told me they were interested in a stylest then I went to check it out. Even the both rent ( have another job at VyStar Credit Union) I interviewed at a nice place but I wasnt willing to be just an asistant and get 8bucks an hour nothin more nothing less. so I actuly ended up at Hair Cuttery!! I didnt think Id ever end up in a "chain" but to be honest I love it i make good moeny I curetnly work at both places and have everyother sunday off a month ( I cant stand to be bored with off time im a work-aholic) But I would say I knew alot when I got out of school but now I know so much more from working in a place like that and working on my spead and skills and watching other people and how they do thing's and combine them with my own I am so much more confident than when I started, and I thought I would be able to conqor anything lol. (like most) My salon was about 15 to 20 miles from my house so look out side the box there is work everwhere you just have to see past the dirty looks and holes in the wall. I recently moved closer to both my jobs (moved out im a big girl now) im gona be 22 with a great appt, great carreer and make good money. Its worth it, I wouldnt have wanted to start any where else! But start small and dream big and work hard you will reach all of the goals on your list! I too want to be an educator/ color specialist.! Good luck in all that you do! Keep looking you will find the right place for you!!

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Posted: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:37:43 AM

@Color4U:  Thanx for the encouragement.  I was in the same situation when I first got my license. Kept bouncing around salons until I found one that was willing to work with a novice straight out of cosmetology school.  Then I went to work in JC Penney Salon and I learned so much.  Got my skills up and I was hungry to learn more. Still am, but the wheels are in motion and I'm doing a lot of research to get my plans off the ground and flying.  Funny, I was 22 when I started working for JC Penney Salon.

I wish you all the best as well and maybe we'll cross paths on our way to the top.

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Only you can make yourself successful!
Posted: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:21:22 PM

I read your issue for discussion, and in todays market, if you are in an area where the demographics show incomes of 25-55 thousand dollars; you are going to make money. Less than 25 thousand and then you could have a problem. Everone wood like to have an exclusive millionare clientelle. If that's what you want, then go for it. What you will need to do is get a job in a salon in that wealthy area and build your clientelle. One thing you must realize is that you will have to relate to this type of clientelle. A formal college education will usually be a good start. If you do not have one, then being up on current affairs globally.  Being well travelled will help. Having a dynamic personallity and being artistically talented in all fields will make up for the education. Sounds like work doesn't it? Wouldn't you rather just be yourself?

My best friend owns a salon in the guetto. He is Italian and has an African-American clientelle and he racks in the money. Those chemical services are expensive. Perms, relaxers, colors and then weaves. Weekly doo's! Those girls drop some big bucks...more than most high-end salons.

My friend Lisa opened up a salon in a low rent district. She made that space look HOT! She hired some really funky stylists that all had dynamic personalities. They have one of the most successful businesses in the city and they are in the guetto. Her parking lot is always filled with BMW's, Mercedes and Porches. The wealthy ones found them because they work is the best.

So it doesn't always matter where you are, but who you are. Don't worry, you'll figuer it out.


Chas Inzinna

Author: Hair Color Formula Encyclopedia

President: SalonTechnologies, Inc.

Inventor: PSA Personal Salon Assistant


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Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:34:35 AM

@Chas Inzinna:

Some points you've made were very interesting and all-assuming.  For one I'm very well educated. Having been to college and majored in business administration and minored in office systems technolgy leaving with a 3.86 GPA.  So I got that down and let's see what else...Oh, I've been to Europe--twice.  Once in London to see Michael Jackson in concert and to Spain both trips were with my best friend.

Yes I possess a beautiful personality without succumbing to being phony and as far as being artistically talented outside of creating hot styles my hobbies are interior decorating, I can crochet almost anything, floral arrangements and sewing.  I'm covered there and I love to read.

Does it sound like hard work?  Maybe to someone who is just starting out in life.  Wouldn't I rather be myself?  Sure I would!!! There is nothing wrong with me. I love being me.  I've experienced different things in life and having a loving mother who always has my back no matter what helps too.  My upbringing has also made me the phenomonal woman I am today. So yeah I know who I am.  Flaws and all.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because I know you don't mean to come off to be condescending, however I'm smart enough to know the difference.  Here's a great business tip:  Always ask questions first before you assume anything.

I am very experienced and professional in what I do and in what I say and yet I am still learning, for this profession is ever changing and I want to stay on top of whats current. 

And as far as I've been and still going I am already successful!!

I'm only striving to be better and eventually the best!!!

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Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:54:34 PM
Yea Im getting ansty where I am we are in a slow spot now and im getting kind of board i like most of the ppl i work with but its soooooo limited where i am, I can move to another salon into a management positoned but I dont want to be a babysitter I want to pay some one to do that for me sort of speak. lol But all in all yea the skills and speed and what not are good I have someone who wants me to work in her salon but she keeps asking if I have a clientel yet im like uh no not enough of one yet. But my ast manager an manager kinda pissen me off, they love you until you cant come to work I had to go to the ER last night sat there for 7 hours!! (not me) I went to sit with my best friend her parents are out of town no way i was going to maker her sit alone so my manager could go home. I swear I wanted to slap the attitude out of her! It was rediculous like hse wouldnt do the same if the shoe were on the other foot. Ive even come back to the slaon after my shift at my second job to close so the manager didnt have to stay all day bc some one called out. And she was petty enough to hardly talk to me at all today because she was mad she had to work a few extra hrs. I know ill get this anywhere but it sitll makes me mad lol whew i feel better now. well back to work for me!! Take care and make great things happen!!