Well guys sorry this one is posted in this section but I could not for the life of me get into the 'color section' of the message boards.....
I have been an avid schwarzkopf color user for the last 12 years and I have a good knowledge on it but here is my trouble:
Our second salon is shutting down and joining us while the larger salon is being built and they use REDKEN color and we are going to be using it too along w/ our Igora color from Schwazkopf. I have used the old AMINO colors from them many years ago but have lost touch with redken products too long ago.
We are going to be having a big color class to update us on their products but I am wondering if anyone out there has the "behind the secrets" about using this color system.
I still use and stick to the general rules of color before breaking them so any help with tips, tricks, etc will help me out alot......
Anyone have any info, we are going to have on hand, the whole line right down to Shade EQ ( which I have used in the past so no trouble on that end)
I know HOT LOCKS.......... the two do not compare.
Both shops will be together shortly after our new building is up but some use redken and some of us use the GOOD STUFF(Schwarzkopf)..... The boss is keeping both so we all have to "get used" to them.......
sidebar: I will do the redken class and use the product then --- but I am sticking with shchwarzkopf..... just have to make veryone happy!!!
Everything. Socolor is high in ammonia- because of that you do get more fadage. It is harder to cover gray although most of the time it is ok, just not consistent enough.
I have used Schwarzkopf for 10 years and I haven't found anything better! Covers gray and is VERY predictable.
So_color does not have the greay coverage that I need, it fades too much, especially the reds and browns. The blondes tend to wash out their tone too but do last a little longer the the reds and browns. So-Color also doesnt not have the conditioning benefits like other brands do........
I love swarzkopf, the conditioning is there/built right into the color ( Called Plantian 2000 -- spelling may be a little off on that name)
You get a true 100% grey coverage with believable tones. The colors are not flat --- theyall have a nice secondary tone so the hair does seem to have more of a multi dimentional look and not look like those flat "wiggy" colors.
They just came out with a line of new REDS that are also 100% grey coverage and they are really fantastic!!!!!! My favorite is "7-80" The color is so vivid even after a months worth of washing and my red head clients just love it.......
We just did a long time customer that was ALL GREY with the
" 6-80" and she came out beautiful and when it was time to retouch --- the midshaft and ends were still the same shade -- AWESOME!!!!
I would have to say that this is the best color line I have used in the last 12 years so I will not be using the redken at all, I only asked about help with the redken color because our salons will be combining into ONE and they like to use it there , just like to stay on top of everything and see what is going on out there.
Iron... I am with you 100% on everything you said about Socolor AND SCHWARZKOPF!
hey we are schwarzkopf soul mates...
ok Im not gonna get all weird like Vally... jk
Well I wanted some tips and tricks for redken but it seems it didntturn out like that so I am not going to include myself in this thread anymore........ SCWARZKOPF all the way!!!!!!!!
Throw redken in the circular file!!!! lol
Well, I can give you a couple tips for how to make shades thicker, For all you brush users out there.
1. Redken sells a color thickener.
2.Use a cream peroxide. Matrix has one for thier demi permanents.
3. Shades work great as intensifiers with any cream demi permanant colors.
Im sure there are many other ways.....but these ways work for me.
I love redken..... for oh so many reasons.
Don't be afraid to just jump off and try the Redken Color. With a few minor adjustments...the formulation is not so different than any other color line.
After 27 years of Framesi color....I recently switched to Redken...cold turkey (mostly Color Fusion). I currently use all of the color lines except Color Gels. Redken puts Framesi to SHAME! Truer hues...richer more vibrant colors...better gray coverage by far...with little or no fadage.
Redken Rocks as far as I'm concerned...and the customer service and education are premiere!!!
Ladigreens, are you using Shades EQ for your low lights? I find that to be much more effective than Color Fusion. Is your client using Redken home care products, such as Color Extend line...particularly Total Recharge? You can produce beautiful low lights, but if they go home and use some cheap shampoo, it's going to fade quickly.
I also find that fadage is worse with damaged or porous hair. Helping them to achieve health will decrease fadage. Do you use the Redken Chemistry Treatment with your clients? IT ROCKS! And, I charge $30 per Chemistry Treatment!
I hope this is helpful....write back if I can be of any other assistance. I love Redken!
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